賴清德多次懇談「柯建銘拒絕」居二線，謝寒冰曝背後內幕

<p style=”color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;”>&nbsp;<span style=”text-align:justify”><span style=”font-size:18px”><span style=”font-family:pingfang sc,hiragino sans gb,microsoft yahei,wenquanyi micro hei,helvetica neue,arial,sans-serif”><span style=”background-color:#ffffff”>在全台大罷免幕後，民進黨團總召柯建銘成為黨內焦點。外界盛傳，身為民進黨主席的賴清德為了推動世代交替，曾數度與柯建銘進行懇談，盼他兌現「退居二線」承諾，交棒給年輕世代。不過此說法遭柯建銘嚴正否認，直指「子虛烏有」。對此，台灣名嘴資深媒體人謝寒冰30日就表示，柯建銘的態度已相當明確，就是「不退」。他直言，即使黨內連署逼退達九成九，也沒有法律能強迫總召下台，引發討論。</span></span></span></span></p>

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<p data-track=”3″ style=”font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px;border:0px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei, WenQuanYi Micro Hei, Helvetica Neue, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:18px;text-align:justify;”><span style=”border:0px; box-sizing:border-box; padding:0px”><span style=”color:#000000″><span dir=”auto” style=”box-sizing:border-box; vertical-align:inherit”>根據《上報》報道，賴清德在罷免案結束後，確實希望藉由黨團調整展現新氣象，並透過多次溝通希望柯建銘能提早讓位。然而，黨內消息稱雙方未達共識，黨秘書長徐國勇更已受命召集各派系討論，氣氛逐漸升溫。不過柯建銘30日澄清，他與賴清德僅在例行會商場合碰面，並無私下懇談。他強調，&ldquo;這些報道根本不是事實&rdquo;，並透露日前與&ldquo;總統府&rdquo;秘書長潘孟安會晤，互動相當融洽。</span></span></span></p>

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<p data-track=”5″ style=”font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px;border:0px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei, WenQuanYi Micro Hei, Helvetica Neue, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:18px;text-align:justify;”><span style=”border:0px; box-sizing:border-box; padding:0px”><span style=”color:#000000″><span dir=”auto” style=”box-sizing:border-box; vertical-align:inherit”>針對風波，台灣名嘴資深媒體人謝寒冰也在《中天辣晚報》發表看法。他認為柯建銘這次並未發表長文回應，而是選擇引用媒體報道澄清，等同直接透過媒體對外發聲，意在告訴賴清德：「媒體這條戰線，我也能掌握」。謝寒冰指出，目前輿論中有人強調&ldquo;賴清德苦勸老柯不聽&rdquo;，但這種說法顯然難以服眾。</span></span></span></p>

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<p data-track=”7″ style=”font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 8px;padding:0px;border:0px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:PingFang SC, Hiragino Sans GB, Microsoft YaHei, WenQuanYi Micro Hei, Helvetica Neue, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:18px;text-align:justify;”><span style=”border:0px; box-sizing:border-box; padding:0px”><span style=”color:#000000″><span dir=”auto” style=”box-sizing:border-box; vertical-align:inherit”>謝寒冰分析，柯建銘的態度已相當明確，就是「不退」。他直言，即使黨內連署逼退達九成九，也沒有法律能強迫總召下台，「柯建銘還是可以做到任期結束」。他更認為，若真想推動交棒，應透過私下尊重的方式懇請，而非放話施壓。否則，「老柯絕對不會輕易低頭」。在他看來，最務實的作法，就是讓柯建銘任滿到明年2月黨團改選時再行處理。</span></span></span></p>

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