<p style=”color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;”> <strong style=”border:0px; box-sizing:border-box; color:rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family:pingfang sc,hiragino sans gb,microsoft yahei,wenquanyi micro hei,helvetica neue,arial,sans-serif; font-size:18px; font-weight:700; margin:0px; padding:0px; text-align:justify”><font dir=”auto” style=”box-sizing: border-box; vertical-align: inherit;”>海峽導報綜合報道</font></strong><font dir=”auto” style=”color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: "PingFang SC", "Hiragino Sans GB", "Microsoft YaHei", "WenQuanYi Micro Hei", "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; text-align: justify; box-sizing: border-box; vertical-align: inherit;”>台灣兩波大罷免失利後，民進黨10日召開基層黨部主委會議，新竹市黨部主委施乃如在會中發難說，大罷免後大家都指責民進黨團總召柯建銘，批其是戰犯，讓他們很難過。賴清德則回應表示：「我沒說過要找戰犯，如果找戰犯就找我」。資深媒體人謝寒冰認為，賴清德被迫這樣說，根本不是「一開始就承擔」。</font></p>
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<p data-track=”3″ style=”font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 20px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: "PingFang SC", "Hiragino Sans GB", "Microsoft YaHei", "WenQuanYi Micro Hei", "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);”><font dir=”auto” style=”box-sizing: border-box; vertical-align: inherit;”>謝寒冰10日在直播節目中表示，他看到綠營的標題，一副好像賴清德鐵肩扛道義，幫柯建銘擋箭，這一切是他的錯，大家不要再去責怪柯建銘。可後來他仔細看了新聞內容，發現根本不是這樣。</font></p>
<p data-track=”4″ style=”font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 20px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: "PingFang SC", "Hiragino Sans GB", "Microsoft YaHei", "WenQuanYi Micro Hei", "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);”><font dir=”auto” style=”box-sizing: border-box; vertical-align: inherit;”>謝寒冰說，實際上，是賴清德跑到新竹去，結果民進黨的新竹市黨部主委跳出來幫柯建銘講話，說敗選的責任應該由全黨一起承擔，不能單怪一個人，柯建銘其實也很盡力。然後賴清德被迫出來說，不要找戰犯了，戰犯就是他自己，他負起一切責任，是這樣的來龍去脈，根本不是「一開始就承擔」。</font></p>
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